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Bicycle tourism at the Costa Blanca

The Costa Blanca and the region of Alicante is very popular for bicycle tourism. Many professional cycling teams use the region for their training.
Indeed in the winter, you can find several well-known cyclist.

On this page you will find more about the cycling routes.


Bicycle tourism at the Costa Blanca

Bicycle tourism at the Costa Blanca

As known, the Costa Blanca has a sunny and warm climate .
Also in the winter. It has also perfect mountains for cycling.

So the Costa Blanca region offers a wide range of  cycling routes.
The routes are different about length and gradient.

The ” ciclo  turismo” is a development project in the region.  They promote the  Alicante province as a quality bicycle tourism destination.

The bicycle roads are fantastic. If you follow the interconnecting routes , you will encounter very little traffic.


The Costa Blanca region is in the east of Spain . Getting there is easy, with a large number of airlines flying directly to Alicante.
The Alicante airport is very popular by west and north European visitors.

bicycle tourism

bicycle tourism

So the Costa Blanca is famous as holiday destination.  But more and more also as cycling holiday.
The province try to achieve  that  the region will be a quality bicycle tourism destination.
There is more than 1 000 kilometers of interconnected cycling routes.
So cycling tourist can discover every little hidden place of the province.


Low carbon footprint of the Bicycle tourism

Cycling is a form of tourism with a low-carbon footprint.
It has a potential grown in west Europa and Spain.
For this cycling can become an important form of national tourism.

Routes for Bicycle tourism

Important, there are many routes for cycling.
Some are for the pro , some are for families.
Then, you find good information in the tourist  offices of different towns.
The routes at the Costa Blanca are accompanied by a “wikiloc” link.
This link contains maps and topographic diagrams. details of bicycle hire  and also repair shops. Also accommodation where the visitors and their bike are welcome.
Furthermore cycle tour organizers. Even  taxi services with adapted to carry bicycles.


There  are nearly 25 routes discovering all the areas.
From Denia to Pilar de Horadada. In the countryside from Villena to Muro.
Important is that the most of the cycling paths are  nearly free of traffic.
The cycling routes are based on the Alicante stretch of the nearly 6000 kilometers  European cycling route network. Which will run around the Mediterranean Sea  from Cadiz to Athene.

Some prefer that all the planning and the organisation has been take care of. Even the bike hire.
There are many organisation who organised cycling holiday. All include .
For example ” The Moorish Spain : Castle of the Levant.
This cycling tour is a combination of great cycling routes with fantastic historical sites in the Valencia region.


When you go on a bicycle tour plan your breaks for drinks and lunch. So it easier to have a goal and also a stop.
Always carry some extra cash with you.
You are on the real Spanish routes and in most Spanish little bar in the small villages on the Valencia  region they will not accept credit cards.

Coll de Rates

This is one of the most popular cycling route in the Aliacnte region. Of course is is a climb over the ” coll”. It is accessible from the popular Mediterranean sea town of Denia , Calpe or Javea.
The good thing is there is not one route over the coll de Rates. There are several different biking routes, all with a different challenge.
So it is up to you which is your goal. Some are quite gentle, other difficult.
In the winter season, January or February the professional teams are training this climb.
It is the place where you can meet Tom Boonen or Zdenek Stybar from Quickstep team.

bicycle tourism coll de rates

bicycle tourism coll de rates

The most popular climb begins from “Parcent” and is about 7 km long and a gradient of 5 %.
From the top of the” col of the Rates”, you are in the middle of the Alicante country.
This point connects many other climbs in the area.


A nice tour :
Start in El Campello ( Alicante )- Villajoyosa  -Benidorm- Altea -Calpe-  Benissa -Parcent -Tarbena – Callosa -Guadalest -Finestrat -Aiges and back to El Campelle ( Alicante). 190km

Guadalest bicycle tourism

Guadalest bicycle tourism







A more flat tour

Start from Calpe to Benissa-  Ondara- Oliva -Gandia  and back to Calpe. It is about 120 km.
You can easily go more north after Gandia  towards Cullera and for the brave even to Valencia city.

Calpe bicycle tourism

Calpe bicycle tourism





Orihuela bicycle tourism.

At the Orihuela Costa there is a bicycle lane  from La Zenia to Cabo roig . Then to Campamor and to Pilar de la Horadada

Bicycle Tourism

Bicycle Tourism







Bicycle tour La Matanza- Quesada

First, this bicycle tour is a circular route from Quesada to La Matanza.
It is a beautiful route, mostly flat with beautiful nature.
Indeed, with beautiful views on the surrounding mountains.

The trip

Start with leaving Quesada and go to Benijofar. There turn right at the town square. The street is cobbled. Then at the second roundabout turn left. You need to cycle over the bridge to go to the next roundabout. Follow the sign to the village of  Realengo . It is time for a stop , a tapa or a drink. Or  Turn right at the junction with the main road. Then cycle along the CV 904 over the bridge.
Then at the next roundabout turn left. Now take the road under the motorway( the A7). Now it is time to go to the village of Albatera. Also in Albetera  there are enough possibilities to take a snack.

Albatera bicycle tourism

Albatera bicycle tourism

Now that you have back your forces, cycle trough  Albatera . Then turn right heading for Los Vicentes and La Murada.
In La murada, the main street is full of bars and cafes.  Time for a break ?
Then up you go to Los Vincentes. Stay on the road till the town of Benferri.
Then take the road to La Matanza.  Time fo a coffee or a menu del dia.  Remember the tip of the extra cash.
After the break you can go for Orihuela. There you have to stay ay the ring roads otherwise you get  in the town center. Take the road to Bigastro.
And return now to Quesada trough Jacarilla, Algorfa, Benijofar.

Duration around five hours
Length of 90 kilometers.

To conclude Bicycle tourism.

Nevertheless the Costa Blanca is an excellent choice for your cycling holidays.
In the  winter season there are more professional riders and cycling training in the Valencia region than anywhere in South Europe.
Nearly more  popular than Tenerife with the Teide and Mallorca.
Indeed, the Costa Blanca offers a variety of routes nearby the coast or in the hinterland.
So, the weather is perfect in the winter: no to warm in summer , not to cold in the winter.



Also important affordable hotels and other accommodations. In winter most offer incredible deals. Which is great for cyclist.

Those are the important reasons of the popularity of the Costa Blanca for bicycle tourism.


Orihuela Costa What To Do ?

Orihuela Costa is divided into small sections. The best known are
Cabo Roig, La Zenia, Dehese de Camoamor, Playa Flamenca.

Orihuela Costa Beaches.

Orihuela Costa Vieuw

Orihuela Costa


The most important, Orihuela Costa has beautiful beaches and is ideal to go with the family. Because the Coastline of the Orihuela Costa stretches over a more than 16 km.
Since  years, the Beaches are popular among the Spanish people. They are  coming from Madrid, Orihuela and mainland Spain.
Recently more European visitors have also discovered these lovely  and beautiful beaches.

Now, every Beach of Orihuela Costa is certified with its Blue Flag. In other words, this label stands for the clearest water and properly maintained beaches.
In fact, with over 14 sandy, sunny beaches this region offers a wide range of choice.

The best known and biggest beaches are La Zenia and Campoamor. On both beaches there are beach bars or restaurants.

Tip: in summer times a parking spot is easy to find around 10 AM.

 La Zenia Beach also known as Cala Bosque.

The beach of la Zenia is smaller, but has more of a cozy feeling.
It’s the most famous beach of Orihuela Costa.
Important, it is accessible for the disabled people with reserved parking spots.
Indeed, it is easy reached by following the n332 till the round a bout for The Zenia Boulevard and turning in the direction of the beach.

As the beach is cleaned daily and has a blue flag, it is very recommendation.
While, it’s also the start of a Beach Promenade which leads to Cabo Roig and beyond.
The Beach has some excellent spots to go snorkeling.
Now it also has a Children play area and a place to practice your volleyball skills.
Starting from the Easter holiday, you can also rent a sunbed and sunshade to relax.
While, during  the  summer season jet skis and pedalos are also available.

Close to the sea, there is a Beach Bar. This bar offers a small range of foods like Pizza and sandwiches.
To the left of the beach is a restaurant called “La mirada” . This restaurant offers a wide range of food from Spanish food till Pizzas. In fact , the view is splendid, the prices ok.

Next to “La Mirada”  is a Hotel from Servigroup ” La Zenia”.


La Zenia Beach


La Zenia Beach

Orihuela Costa


Campoamor/Orihuela Beach La Glea Beach.

Also know as “Dehesa de campoamor”.
First ,is quite a lot bigger than “La Zenia” and feels not so crowded due to its size.
Further, It is also cleaned daily,  even during the winter period.
Sometimes there is a lot of seaweed that washes on the shore. Naturally ,seaweed means that the sea is very healthy. Although for swimmers it feels a little bit strange.

Besides, “Campoamor” beach is accessible for the disabled people. The town offers a amphibious chair.

Naturally , it has a number of restaurants nearby and several beach bars.
During the summer season  “Las Colinas” beach club is open. In fact, for us it is one of the most beautiful bars around the Orihuela Costa. The bar offers sunbeds and  an infinity pool. In the Summer it  opens a restaurant which offers Sushi.

On the edge of the beach, Jet skis and Pedalos are available in the summer season.

Again there is a nice beach bar with a choice of drinks and snacks. We enjoyed the cocktails and  the salads.
Side by side , the sunbeds and red sunshades are available from the Easter holidays till November.

To conclude , “Campoamor” also has a small Marina. Indeed, with a little restaurant and bar.


Orihuela Costa Beach




Orihuela Costa Beach

Orihuela Costa


Punta Prima.

In brief,  “Punta Prima” is about 234 metes of beach  and has elevator access which ensures good access for the disabled.

Cala Mosca.

In short, is near the “Playa Flamenca” and is a small beach.

 Playa Flamenca.

In particular, “Playa Flamenca” is popular due to its bars and shops, restaurants nearby.

Cabo Roig.

On the edge of the beach, “Cabo Roig” has a Marina. In fact this is the biggest in the “Orihuela Costa”.
The beach is popular in summer and winter because is located in a bay.
The beach bar is popular for his excellent cocktails en the nice easy listening music.
At the end of the horizon you can see the “Mar Menor”  and the sierras.
Close to the marina there is a bar/restaurant .
On top of Cabo Roig there is another restaurant with a very nice terrace  with  splendid panoramic view.
As you can see a little hidden germ.


There are many shops in the countless commercial centers across La Zenia.
Everyone of them has an Asian supermarket, which sells about everything at a cheap price. Most of the time they also contain some small supermarket and some local shops and restaurants.

La Zenia Boulevard.



Orihuela Costa La Zenia


Opened on the 26th of  September.
La Zenia Boulevard is the biggest shopping center of the province of Valencia -Alicante.
La Zenia Boulevard has 150 stores including Zara, H&M.
Construction Area 175.000 M².
Sales area of the project is 80.000 M² (Including HyperMarket 14 000 M² Leroy Merlin (DIY) Decathlon (sports) 5 000 M².
It is owned by the Alcampo group which is more commonly known as group Auchan.

More Information  about La Zenia Boulevard.


Dos Mares Centro Commercial.

Dos Mares is a shopping mall on a 15 min drive from Orihuela Costa.It has most of the common Spanish stores like Jack & Jones,Bershka,Pull And Bear.


Orihuela Costa Dos Mares Centro Commercial

Going Out in Orihuela Costa.


Nightlife, Clubs , Dancing’s.





Bushwacka Bar Orihuela


Bushwacka (Cabo Roig).

Is an Australian themed pub-bar. It offers a big choice of cocktails at an honest price. At night the party is guaranteed by the local DJs’.

Xairo Campoamor.

A typical Spanish club with big stylish events.


Orihuela is well known for it’s golf Courses that have been renowned around the world for their quality .


Orihuela Costa has lots of restaurants in the different centro commercial from the Centro Commercial in Playa Flamenca till the Strip on Cabo Roig. We have dedicated a page to the best restaurants in the Orihuela Costa.


Orihuela Costa Restaurants

Orihuela Costa restaurants is content of this page.

Orihuela Costa restaurants.

The Orihuela Costa  known under the many sub areas . This sub areas are La Zenia, La Fuente, Campoamor and Playa Flamenca.  The Orihuela Costa  offers a wide range of restaurants.
First of all Spanish local restaurants.But also traditional British food including an English breakfast and Fish and chips till experimental and fine dining.
Indeed you can find any kind of restaurant in Orihuela Costa restaurants.
On this page we will feature our choice of Orihuela Costa restaurants and a list of other restaurants in or around Orihuela Costa .
The Orihuela Costa restaurants guide, also contains the areas of Playa Flamenca and La Zenia , La Fuente and Campoamor.

“Che Restaurante Argentino”    Zenia Boulevard.

Is a new Argentinian restaurant at La Zenia Boulevard offering an all you can eat formula for 12.95 euros and  rising to 16.95 at weekends .
Although drinks are not included but free refill on fizzy drinks for 2.95.
The staff is really friendly and the quality of the food is good .
You just order your vegetables and fries, rice or bread or even all of it.
Then the waiters will come to the table with different kinds of meat where you can choose from.
Even though having a buffet brought to your table is always special , and the meat was amazing.
Giant skewers of chicken, pork, beef were brought round by a very friendly and attentive staff.
Definitely this Che Argentinean steak house is a must for any meat lover and was great value for money.

Tip: don’t eat too quickly or too much from one dish.
Wait a little, because there is a lot of delicious meat that comes around.


“The Papaya Tree”           Playa Flamenca.

Papaya Tree Orihuela Costa restaurants

Papaya Tree Orihuela Costa restaurants

First the restaurant is in a cozy and original decoration with nice and calm music playing.
Definitely the best Thai restaurant in the Orihuela Costa and the surroundings, I can’t just say anything bad about them.
The Thai cuisine is really good, combining a show of flavors and colors.
Starters are traditional and modern dishes combined prepared with the finest ingredients.
We did like the green curry (beware of the red chili pepper its hot).

The food is indeed lovely, offering a wide range of choice including “Season menu’s” or just one dish. The staff is super friendly and the price is good.The service is fantastic.
We were unable to get a table inside so had to sit outside on the terrace. In the main time the waitresses were so attentive and asked several times  if everything was alright, if it was not too cold. They also explained items on the menu for us.
As the food arrived, it was absolutely delicious Thai food. It was really a large-sized portion and we made sure we ate everything.
The Thai food is freshly cooked and very tasty.
Indeed we enjoyed this restaurant with very good food at reasonable prices.
Although the price is more expensive than the  several  “Wok’s ” , the food is incomparable much better.
In brief we will definitely return for a next visited.

It is always full of peopleso I recommend you to make a reservation.

Centro Commercial Flamenca Beach, 24-26. Orihuela Costa. Alicante Spain.
Tel: 965 325 105.

“The Cellar Door”     Playa Flamenca
(Our Favorite Orihuela Costa restaurants)

The Cellar Door La Zenia Playa Flamenca Alicante Restaurant Costa Blanca Goats cheese, caramelised beetroot, marinated orange and radish salad

The Cellar Door La Zenia Playa Flamenca Alicante Restaurant Costa Blanca Goats cheese, caramelised beetroot, marinated orange and radish salad

At first the cellar door is one of  best of the Orihuela Costa restaurants.
It is owned by the same owners of the Papaya tree.
Next  it ranks in the Top 10 on TripAdvisor for the Costa Blanca.
The restaurant offers a  modern European style cuisine.
With influences from the  English, the French cuisine and fine the Asian cuisine.

The restaurant is redecorated. In the past is was decorated  by using a mix of different kinds of chairs and offering full wood tables with a warm color.
In the present is more stylish.
There is a lovely atmosphere thanks the nice jazzy music that is playing.
Still the Service is great, they often check on you to make sure everything is all right.
The guest wife and her team make everyone feel welcome. They are very friendly on a natural way. When the guest wife is not in the Cellar Door, the atmosphere is different.

Price Range.
Now,  the Cellar Door offers 2 Menus.
An 8 courses menu for 40 €  and a 5 courses menu for 30 €.
The choice is still yours.
There is still an excellent house wine at 10 euro the bottle.
We took the 5 courses menu : Bread of the day, Amuse bouche, Tempura brie, Corvina fish, Mandarine and coconut granita and at last sesame ice cream.
The chef of the Cellar Door has eye for every ultimate detail. This reflects in the superb quality of the menu.
In brief, if you are the guest of this restaurant, it is a gastronomic experience that you will not forget soon.
The restaurant is very popular with North and West European tourist therefore it is better to make a reservation.
Telephone number to reserve in advance +34 688 41 83 67

“The Stray Sod”         Campoamor.

The Stray sod is an Irish bar /restaurant,  so keep in mind that you are eating in a pub.
As a result it has a great atmosphere with football matches being broadcast-ed on big TV’s .

In the past , we have eaten they’re several times now and still we have to say their menus are good value.
First one of the biggest advantages is that they work with fresh and seasonal products. Indeed this improves the quality of the food.
Besides “The Stray Sod” also offers some home-made pies.
My favorite dishes are for starters “Beer Battered onion rings” or “soup of the day” and as a main course a “Sirloin or Rib eye steak”.

Don’t order the biggest steak unless you are starving. Indeed a normal steak will be sufficient most of the times.
Equally important for the ambiance. Every night after 10 o clock there are some local bands that insure the ambiance.
From Irish pub music to jazz music every night there is another artist playing some music.

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“Asia Chic”       La Zenia.

Food is decent offering and wide range of Chinese food and Asiatic food for a decent Price.
The ” Asia Chic ” offers a good price /quality.
Offering  menus from 10 euro including a drink.
This restaurant offers great quality for an excellent Price.
Definitely worth checking out.

“Old Asia”       La Zenia.

The Food server at Old Asia is delicious.
Their Sushi is excellent and fresh, it’s probably the best I ever had for the moment.

Even though “Old Asia”  its a bit more expensive than the normal Asiatic restaurants. But the quality is excellent.

Orihuela Costa restaurants some other Good Restaurants.

“The Nautilus”        Torrevieja

Orihuela Costa restaurants Nautilus restaurant Torrevieja

Orihuela Costa restaurants

First of all this restaurant has one of the best locations in the area, right next to the Mediterranean sea with fabulous views.
In the past we have eaten there several times, out of the summer season, and always had a good meal.
The staff was friendly from both Spanish and English waiters/waitresses.
Indeed we like the superb view on the sea from the restaurant.
The “Nautilus” offers a range of and international cuisine.
The fish dishes in particular are really excellent.
The prices are a little more expensive than some other restaurants . Are we paying for the view ?
Because the restaurant is located nearby the sea, the view is lovely especially upstairs.
Even or just for a drink or a cocktail ” The nautillus ” it’s worth a visit.

Special Mentioning restaurant, bar and club nearby the beach of Campoamor

“Las Colinas”      Beach Club  Campoamor.

Las Colinas Beach Club swimming pool

Las Colinas Beach Club swimming pool








The Beach club is open between March and October. There is a lost at the door.

Enso Sushi Restaurant.
There is both a Sushi restaurant in the main club as well as in the beach club although the one in beach club is only open in summer.

The Sushi Restaurant in the Golf Resort is open from:
Tuesday till Thursday from 13.00 to 17.00
Friday and Saturday from 13.00 till 17.00 and 19.30 to 23.00.
On Sundays we are open from 13.00 till 17.00 and its closed on Monday
It’s advisable to book a table their  phone number is  96 532 41 14.

“Poco Loco”        Cabo Roig

Activities and atmosphere

The “Poco Loco ” is a Tex Mex Restaurant, and at first this is the best choice to with big family and kids.
Even though this Mexican restaurant across the Cabo Roig strip is an awesome place to go with Kids.
Almost each night they have children activities planned.
So this makes it an unforgettable night for the kids.Meanwhile parents can enjoy their meal.
After this there is sometimes live music or other activities.

The Menu and food.
The Poco Loco offers a Menu for 12,99 and it includes starters, Main and a dessert.
While the food is mixed American and Mexican.
In addition,they offer huge Cocktails. so make sure you either have a sober driver. Or you can naturally can call a cheap Taxi to go home. After all it is holiday, and time to relax and enjoy.
At the” Poco Loco”food quality is good and is great value for the money.
At the top of the building, there is a nice terrace.
If you want huge portions check out the “à la carte” Menu.
Naturally you can share a starter with 3 persons and still have plenty of food.
After that there is a range of Mexican or American dishes.

First : good valued  and decorated restaurant.
Is perfect to go with kids and family.  Staff is super friendly and the place is nicely decorated. in the Mexican style.
But if you want to enjoy a calm restaurant, you might want to skip this place and head over to the” Cellar Door”.

Orihuela Costa restaurants worth Mentioning.

If you are looking to eat Indian food we could recommend “the Mumbai Blue” .
They have a wide range of curries and prizes are ok.

“Chapter One” offers a nice English menu with some fine dining options. But prices are a bit more on the expensive side in comparison to the other restaurants.


Because we loved the food in the Cellar Door, we went to the “Truffel” this fall.
The chef of the Cellar Door started this little restaurant in La Fuente.

It was a gastronomic experience thanks to chef Pascual and his team.
We chose different dishes and they were all delicious.
It is very difficult to chose between the lamb, the hake, the superb beef cheeks….
And the desserts ! I melt for the tasty picture on a plate.
A real high standard for the menu.
We took the menu of 18 € ! Amazing value for this price.
Everything was well presented.


Chef/owner Pascual loves his job and  got respect for the food itself. It reflects in everything.

Restaurante “Los Cucalos”. Los Dolses

Adress: Monte Zenia, Urbanización Los Dolses, Orihuela Costa.
This is a very large, local restaurant. It is very popular by the Spanish local people.
This is the place where the local families go to eat. The staff is very friendly ans speak English.
First of all the place  is very good value for money. But it is not cheap food or ordinary is it is Spanish food. The chef has won several local competitions with his food.
The restaurant is a family restaurant, with a real Mediterranean food.

At the “Los Cucalos.” there is already a daily menu from 10 €.
At Sunday there is a special menu for 12 € ! But you can also chose  ” a la carte” .
We eat the paella , it was excellent.
Since the start the restaurant is also known for it great seafood.
If you want a favorite dish who is one the large menu, ask the staff and they will do all the possible to help you.
The restaurant is closed on Monday, because that is the fisherman day off.
The one negative point is that the location is a bit difficult to find.
To conclude , the  restaurant is large , 250 places,  with large windows.
It is ideal for family with children.So If the children are coming with you there is a separate play ground for kids .

Free wifi.
Free easy parking.

Rianxeira Restaurant        Cabo Roig.

Rainxeira Restaurants is a nice Spanish restaurant.
Excellent food and paella. Fantastic value  quality price . Nearly every night there is a good entertainment. It is sure a  place to enjoy with friends.
A lovely welcome and service by the staff.

Last time, we ordered  the 3 course set menu which included a half bottle of house wine per person. It was also the Flamenco evening, with a Spanish singer and Flamenco dancer.
For the three of us we paid a bill of only 45 € so we paid 15 € each.The menu include a salad , pan con aioli , a starter , a main-course, and a house made dessert. But also the half bottle of wine per person , so for us three one bottle and a half. And finally a coffee.

That ” flamenco “night,  at first we choose the home-made paella, second the main course was hake with e delicious sauce and potatoes  and  at last the dessert was a perfect  homemade apple cake ( tarte tatin ) with ice scream.
When you want to see the  ” animation” it is better to book your table. The restaurant has a steady flow of regular customers.
Their is always something to do at the evening: a Flamenco evening , a opera singer , a musical singer … Check the planning  at the planner in front of the restaurant.

“The French Touch”          La fuente Campoamor.

The restaurants at La Fuente are on a good location. The french touch is one of this restaurants.
It has the sun into the evening.  So there is a lovely setting for just a drink or for eating on the terrace.
The bar / restaurant has a great choice of food on the menu.
The staff is friendly and nothing is too much trouble. The patron wants to please his guests.
We enjoyed the daily fresh fish, it was well prepared and very tasty.
Our friends did try the fondue , they said it was very good.
The quality is good .
The restaurant have a “menu del dia” as well as ” a la carte “.
Give it a try to make up your own mind.

“Numbar 5” at the strip          Cabo roig.

The Cabo Roig  strip near the N 332 is a large boulevard of restaurants , bar and shops.
At this strip one of the good restaurants are ” Numbar 5 “.
At the menu there is plenty of choice. The portion size  are good. Not too much, so you are not stuffed at the first plate.
The” Numbar 5″ got a daily menu at 9.95 €.  A starter a main course and a dessert.
Last time we visited the restaurant is  the main was  f.e. a superb 6oz steak.
The food is delicious and made with love and respect for the food itself. That some times the different with other restaurant on the strip.
The dessert are  very tasty for example the chocolate mousse.
The service is quick but not hasty. The staff is efficient and attentive.
The “Numbar 5” is well worth a visit, so give it a try.